Bought these pants as a first time hockey player as a cheap way to get into the sport, I've worn these pants in 5 non checking pick up games and these pants have not held up to the standard I thought bauer had, velcro on the leg zippers is pulling off from poor stitching and the stitching on the bottoms of the leg is falling out, I know these pants are a low price point pant but considering Ive taken nothing less than extremely high levels of care with them they should be able to make it further than 5 pick up games not only have the other major companies gained a new customer but more importantly bauer has lost one